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Technical => Technical => Interior, Upholstery & Trim => Topic started by: Tornado red gti on June 10, 2021, 07:48:36 PM

Title: Need new headlining
Post by: Tornado red gti on June 10, 2021, 07:48:36 PM
Hi I need new headlining for 3 dr gti can anyone recommend a trim specialist in East Midlands area would like it as close to original as possible
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: t2000 on June 10, 2021, 10:36:40 PM
Buy the whole thing, it's less hassle and straight swap, by the time you take the old one out and break it into pieces it cheaper to replace, my mate has done his, good quality https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184392433841?hash=item2aeea540b1:g:eOIAAOSwDDpdzDJ5
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Monkey on June 11, 2021, 07:55:53 AM
I'll be getting one of these for my red ones resto.
I've done two myself now and they're not fun at all!
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Eddypeck on June 11, 2021, 01:05:23 PM
I bought a spare (broken one) with the intention of strengthening and covering, then swapping over. But if I ever get round to doing it of not is still to be seen.
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Tornado red gti on June 11, 2021, 04:05:25 PM
Have been in touch with the guy on the eBay link and he’s sending me some samples as I want it as close to original spec as poss,will see what they are like when they arrive
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: AndyBa on June 11, 2021, 09:21:47 PM
This is something I need too. The edges of my "bedouin tent" headlining are now coming away! I'd also like it to be close to OEM if possible.
I'm assuming these on ebay travel well when sent by a courier?
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: t2000 on June 11, 2021, 11:41:21 PM
Custom boxes made for them and they are not a wafer like OE bit more rigid, here's a pic of one fitted, looks a bit grey on that bit is isnt as the other pic is my mate trimming up the sunroof winder and sunroof panel.

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681974008899698872/840290695227244614/69365394_732777247177864_3783276377097109504_n.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681974008899698872/841671550495096868/123325997_805216480296136_4412119365481110365_n.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681974008899698872/841671540894072873/123134707_397104981310257_5015513331352456807_n.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681974008899698872/841671545876906004/123324645_2762273530713028_3383438812586941975_n.jpg)

(https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/681974008899698872/841671554361327676/123380452_993813131120901_5868927846932831619_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: PhilC on June 15, 2021, 07:01:25 AM
I have just had one re-trimmed and it cost £300 so this looks very good value.
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: t2000 on June 15, 2021, 06:07:34 PM
I have just had one re-trimmed and it cost £300 so this looks very good value.

That's pricey isn't it, does make these seem good value.
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: AndyBa on July 18, 2021, 09:27:04 AM
I guess I'm finding out what some already know.
I've tried to clean off as much of the disintegrated foam between the headlining "skin" and the shell then used high temp upholstery adhesive to stick the "skin" back on. It works for a while but it looks like the glue has turned into a sticky mess and the "skin" flops down again. I think I just need to cut it off until I replace it.
 It's a bit like driving a van!
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: L90E on July 18, 2021, 10:24:53 AM
Was watching an old Car SOS a while back, can't even remember which one now but they were sorting out a new head-board for something or other.

At the time it reminded me of the different posts about our MK2 ones and that it always seemed to come back to the glue failing. They were a specialist company, but there's bound to be more than one and whatever adhesive they use must do the job or else they'd not be in business too long.

Might be worth trawling some of the old episodes or ringing one or two of them from the Yellow Pages for some pointers? 
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Monkey on July 18, 2021, 08:24:41 PM
It's not actually the glue that fails, there is a very thin layer of foam between the crisp like headlining and the material, this deteriorates and lets the material sag.

I have taken down a headliner, cleaned off the foam and used proper trim fix adhesive to glue on fresh material.
Absolute pain in the ass, but seems to work.
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: psgill1 on July 21, 2021, 07:56:44 AM
Buy the whole thing, it's less hassle and straight swap, by the time you take the old one out and break it into pieces it cheaper to replace, my mate has done his, good quality https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184392433841?hash=item2aeea540b1:g:eOIAAOSwDDpdzDJ5

My headliner has also been sagging and needed new one this looks good. Sounds like the general consensus is that a DIY job on the headline doesn’t really last? So am I better off purchasing this one or getting my current one out and giving it a shot myself? If so what do I need to do to be able to refurb my headline myself?

Thanks :)
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Eddypeck on July 21, 2021, 10:16:56 AM
Without taking out the headlining and doing it properly a DIY job won't last, you can't just restick the saggy bit.

But a DIY job will last if done right - think about it, one you buy will have been done by someone else. Granted they've done it more often so have practice but there's no special tools required.

Like most things it's all in the prep. Glue can't stick to dust, so you have to clean away all the old foam, which has disintegrated into dust.

A headlining can be removed and refitted without breaking if done carefully, I've done it a few times now and mostly on my own.



Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Monkey on October 13, 2021, 10:17:11 AM
Well I've just ordered one of them.
Fingers crossed!!
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Swissalan on October 13, 2021, 12:12:42 PM
Would be interested to know how well the material on these match the original material

You can buy the original material from VW heritage - maybe you can buy that abs get the company on eBay to use it
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Monkey on October 13, 2021, 01:03:17 PM
I actually used the heritage stuff on my blue golf, it's not original, but VERY close to it.
They've done a good job getting it reproduced.
The material on the one I've ordered is just straight black, but they give enough to recover the sunroof and sun blinds, so it should all blend in ok when it's done.
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Martin109 on March 27, 2022, 05:36:07 PM
The original on my H-reg Driver is cream, and I think vinyl rather than brushed material.  Does anyone know a good source for this material, as the VW Heritage kit seems to be grey (perhaps GTI oriented?):  VW Heritage Headliner (https://www.heritagepartscentre.com/uk/191867500m-headliner-material-dark-grey-over-black.html)
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Monkey on March 28, 2022, 08:57:59 AM
That one from Heritage is the one I bought for my blue golf. It's nigh on identical to a black gti one.
My last one, I bought a whole headliner from headliner-world on ebay and it was an excellent fit:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/184392433841?hash=item2aeea540b1:g:eOIAAOSwDDpdzDJ5
They say they do cream, might be worth a message?
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Martin109 on March 29, 2022, 09:06:08 PM
Thanks, I've sent them a question about it.  Ideally, I'd like to get hold of something close to the original vinyl cloth, if possible.  I may end up getting the uncovered version and the cloth separately, if I can track it down.
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Dougie on June 18, 2023, 10:14:50 AM
@Monkey I've just received my headlining from headliner world, I'm curious how you redo the sun visors. Especially the hinge bit. Do you have any pictures of yours or any advice? Thanks
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Eddypeck on June 19, 2023, 09:14:07 AM
@Monkey I've just received my headlining from headliner world, I'm curious how you redo the sun visors. Especially the hinge bit. Do you have any pictures of yours or any advice? Thanks

I've recently fitted one of these headliner world headlining and I pondered the same question.

I haven't done mine yet, and tbh not sure if I will bother. But if I were to do it I would cut the two sides to shape. Slightly oversize and sew them together along all but the top edge to create a bag. Then hand stitch the top edge, leaving the cut outs for the hinge and hook. Obviously any opening will need to be hemmed. Perhaps take to an upholsterer.

I can't imagine any attempt to just spray glue and cover would work very well.
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Monkey on June 19, 2023, 10:18:51 AM
There is a place called one up upholstery, I was going to ask them to do it as they have done them before and look very good.
I'm nowhere near skilled enough to do it myself!!
Title: Re: Need new headlining
Post by: Will on July 09, 2023, 02:53:38 PM
I’ve also fitted a reproduced headlining from headliner world, based on good feedback on this forum. Really pleased - it fits well, looks very close to original and appears to be well made.

Curious how people tackled the sunroof aperture though? (A small line is already cut out of the fabric, but you need  to cut the rest yourself.) I’m sure it’s not difficult but you only get one shot!
Is it a case of cutting it almost to size, but leaving a 1/2 cm of additional material to tuck into the sunroof seal?  And cutting in at each corner at 45 degrees?