Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #60 – November 10, 2020, 09:07:18 PM Excellent work, as always!
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #61 – November 13, 2020, 10:21:20 AM A lot going on in my head... would probably be typing for hours and making no sense at all if I didn't rein myself in so this is a very, very brief outline of where I am / random thoughts on things.I can only test for CO (with the Gunson Gastester) and nothing else - not hydro carbons, air / fuel ratio etc. for example.I'm limiting myself to matters with the Air Flow Meter itself. I'm happy at this point that all the other influences such as air leaks, ECU temp sensor etc. etc. have been checked and everything is set up as it should be - a lot's been done. The cars original Bosch L-Jetronic AFM's lowest optimal CO level (the point before it would start to adversely affect the smooth running of the car) was 2.4%Haynes manual states 1.0% - 2.0% is ideally what you want for the good running of this type of injection 205.The used, replacement AFM, pre doing anything to it also went down to the same optimal 2.4%.Upon cleaning the replacement / adjusting the swinging arm to run on fresh conductive material it satisfactorily went down to 1.5%.Upon similarly cleaning / adjusting the original AFM it could only go down to a higher 2.0%.As I've now a correctly working AFM in the form of the replacement, I tried adjusting the spring tension on the original (it's the last adjustment possible and is easily reversible, but even so wouldn't have done it otherwise).Apparently there's over 150 teeth and potential 5 x turns of the wheel containing the spring, so the 3 x notches I eventually moved it (clockwise to tighten) I think is quite a small adjustment.The CO dropped incrementaly with each of the 3 notches down to 1.0%The Gunson has a potential error range of +/- 0.5%.If mine is 100% accurate, that would create a risk of lowering the CO too low so I re-adjusted the original AFM back up to the 1.5% level.There's quite a few (mostly very old 1990's and early 2000's) guides on doing what I have just done but none relate to the 205, it's mainly Alfas, BMW's and a particularily good one for Morgans.As with most things on the inter-web there's different opinions put forward as fact but in the case of the Bosch L-jetronic there's a general agreement about the basics which I've followed.I'm experimenting, I've no experience or training and am just picking things up as I go along.One area that I can't resolve is the impact these changes will have on other readings, eg. hydo carbons.I've no means to check, but those who do know more about these things... is there an expected outcome - for example. when CO goes down does HC go up?Interestingly one old BMW AFM guide I read gave instructions to move the wheel 3 x notches the other way inorder to improve performance some how. Said earlier that it's possible my original AFM has had it's lid off before (though if it was it was put back on very professionally, unlike the replacement pictured above)It may just be a coincidence but my moving it back the same amount maybe undone an old 'mod' and returned it to factory?There's also the issue of the spring simply losing some tension over 30+ years of use and the small adjustment I made was enough to compensate?Apologies in advance - I find this sort of stuff facinating, I'm sure others don't just so much... wish I'd done something different for a living!The images below are of the original AFM - putting them up just for the sake of thread completeness and any other saddos.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #62 – November 13, 2020, 09:05:49 PM With the MOt extension mine was for 6 months but they extended it again a couple of months after the first 6 months so it's now due July, you might be lucky and not have to tax it.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #63 – November 15, 2020, 09:57:15 AM Unfortunately they insisted I had to keep it taxed to be eligible for the extension to the TEC.Like you I got 6 months rather than the full year others did with the assurance there'd be an additional TEC(s) to take me up to 12 months if testing remained unavailable, which it is for 5+ year old cars.TEC ran out last week and surprise, surprise no renewal forthcoming so car is showing as no MOT when checked.Can't get anyone to answer their help line and emails have gone unanswered... I smell Muppetry.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #64 – November 16, 2020, 05:11:19 PM Finally got someone to answer the phone this lunch time... just as well as the emails have continued to be ignored and car is without an MOT for a week nowAccording to this person I wasn't eligble for a further extension as the cars last MOT was done in GB and not NI.I'd raised this very point two months ago when enquiring about the tax having to run on needlessly to ensure a TEC extension.I was categorically told it made no difference.Rather than argue around in circles I just booked an MOT on-line and incredibly was offered one for 2 hours later at my nearest center.Quick check of everything and headed down - passed with flying colours, not so much as a minor defect!On a side note I'd done the emissions again over the week-end (must've had a premonition) and got a steady 1.3%.Tester today got 1.320% so it's good to know the Gunson's spot on accuracy wise.Hydro carbons were 153.0 (I've read 100 is the ideal for these engines, but maybe that's just a crock) even so, well below the threshold so more than happy.Unfortunately just noticed they've knocked 20,000 miles off the true odometer reading on the certificate, going to have to get that sorted or it'll play havoc with any future HPI checks.Car was minging already from the round trip so went for a whizz about in the rain for an hour... so tempted to keep using him over the winter, just so good to drive and not sure I can deny myself until the weather changes again.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #65 – November 20, 2020, 10:02:01 AM Had to take the car back to the test center so they could inspect the mileage and correct their mistake... luckily it's not too far away and a new certificate was issued on the spot.Wouldn't have minded so much but spent the day before cleaning him after the first outing in the rain only to have to do it all over again a day later.While I'm glad it's out of the way for another year all this faffing about by the DVLA has pushed next years due date out of the spring time and into the winter months.Not sure what it's like in GB but over here the soonest you can actually have a test on a car is one calendar month before MOT expiry, though you can make the booking from up to three months in advance. Very likely it'll make no difference... October is usually as bad as November.Probably going to SORN him at the end of the month, though any potential refund on the insurance for dropping down to off road cover is tiny.So small infact it doesn't outweight the loss of certain things that on road cover would retain even he's not being driven... so for the sake of a few quid will leave things as they are and have better peace of mind.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #66 – November 20, 2020, 11:30:49 AM It's similar here. My June MOT was expended by 6 months giving me a December date. Now is not the weather to be rolling around the floor fixing issues and as I haven't used the car since March I'm thinking I won't bust a gut to get it MOTed in the next few weeks. I currently have it in bits anyway, I may as well just leave it till the Spring now. I don't expect I'll be going back to work anytime soon. I've been work from home since March (hence why I've not needed the car). My wife is back to work now which means I don't have access to the Mk5 during the day, but if I do have to go anywhere the motorbike is now taxed and tested. We had a typo on the milage on one of our last MOTs, think that was the Mk5. Spotted it and got them to correct is as otherwise will show on the history for ever more.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #67 – November 20, 2020, 01:31:47 PM Before I got the car I did an HPI check and it threw up a warning / anomaly with the mileage.Seller fortunately had all the old MOT's and that's what it turned out to be - a wrong mileage recorded on a 20 year old certificate that caused a blip in the otherwise steady rise in mileage over the years - an exact repeat of what happened this time round.Took an age to get HPI to remedy it, wanted copies of ALL his certificates before and since - took forever to scan plus constant back and forth emails.The DVLA website even has a help section covering it... obviously happens often enough that it's a known problem. If it happens to you... there's short time limits to get it resolved both with HPI and DVLA or else it becomes a drawn out PITA. 1 Likes
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #68 – November 26, 2020, 02:30:03 PM Pretty happy the AFM is set up right and so the hassle of taking the anti-tamper plug in and out isn't an issue anymore.Probably like nearly every other Bosch AFM the original bung was long gone... they seem to have been a very tight push-in fit and can't imagine anyone took much care when removing or bothered to replace them over the years.You can buy repros. for the 205, so will suit similar AFM's of the time (Inc. MK2's) as the casing seems to be identical.https://www.bakerbm.com/205-gti-air-flow-meter-adjuster-screw-bung.htmlI got one thrown in when ordering some other stuff, but it's been well roughed up after so much prising in and out - didn't fancy paying nearly a fiver inc. post to get another though.Bought these nipple caps on eBay over the summer for just £4.20 posted when I needed them for something else, enough in the box to do me a life time.Turns out they're nearly a perfect fit as a bung... a little bit loose but it'll not fly out either but means they can be removed more easily if needed.The red one must've been what was on 205's if BakerBM are correct, but if you Google MK2 AFM's I've found a few images of some with them in pale blue.Looks to me like the same shade as those in the box of caps.If you're not that worried about originality then these'll work perfectly - exact fit width wise though you may have to trim the depth (to one of the flanges) depending on how far in or out your adjustment screw is.The originals fit flush into the hole, these have a collar and sit proud but that just means they can be taken off repeatedly.A small detail but not just for the fussy, they also keep the crap out of the adjustment hole too.You're after Size 14, and a pack of 10 cost £2.05 inc. postage.https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Round-Plastic-Blanking-End-Caps-Tube-Pipe-Inserts-Plugs-Bungs-Black/222328146014?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&var=521177874051&_trksid=p2057872.m2749.l2649 Last Edit: November 26, 2020, 02:45:15 PM by L90E 2 Likes
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #69 – November 30, 2020, 11:34:40 PM Not usually one for french cars overall, however I must say this one is so clean! Awesome looking thing! Keep the magnolia slam panel too, looking forward to future updates!
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #70 – December 11, 2020, 01:31:12 PM Finally got around to putting in the VDO voltmeter, though still waiting on the correct gauge of wire to connect it up.GTI's have all the main dials covered as standard, volts was the only genuinely useful one to add.Didn't want to be making holes unnecessarily and attached it to the underside lip of the drivers side cubby... if it's ever removed no one will be any the wiser it was there.Can be clearly seen when driving, either looking through the wheel or moving your head slightly to the right.The style's called 'Nachtdesign' ( Night-design) and the numerals / needle are back lit rather than the more usual illumination that shines onto the solid needle / face, should match in well with the existing gauges using an orange cap on the bulb.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #71 – July 03, 2021, 07:41:10 PM Nothing much new as far as the actual car goes, still running sweet as a nut and still putting on the miles (and apparently plenty of road dust too, didn't realise it was so bad until I looked at the photo).Only thing to report is an old Uniflo sticker all the way from 1980's France... remember that stuff?
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #72 – August 23, 2021, 12:12:39 PM Been another while since I'd anything to report, other than putting on yet more miles.MOT's due in late November... you can apply 12 weeks in advance here, though the earliest test date they'll give you will be within a month of it's expiry, so hoping to take advantage of that and bring things forward. It'll not change next years due date, I'll get 13 months MOT, but if I can get an earlier date it'll mean not keeping it taxed for so long and save a few quid putting him on SORN sooner.Unfortunately no matter which date it turns out to be, at that time of year it'll still be well passed the better weather.Got the Gunson out in anticipation, everything else has been changed already and car's running perfectly.For last years MOT I found using it for my own CO readings they were more or less identical to the testers, so no reason to doubt things have changed.In the months since then it'd risen to 2.3% (from 1.3%), but a bit to twiddling got it back down to a steady 1.4%... happy enough with that.Random recent piccie, for the sake of it.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #73 – August 23, 2021, 01:17:00 PM Excellent work!I want to get a Gunson, or the like, will help out loads setting up.
Re: Jacquot - 1989 Peugeot 205 1.9 GTI... Reply #74 – August 23, 2021, 08:17:03 PM If you've ever seen one in the flesh, they really are cheaply made... a light weight plastic box and some pipes, your money's definitely not going on build quality.There's older model, used ones on the likes of eBay, but I'd wait and get the latest digial one if possible, there's quite often offers on. Having said that it works and should save you from an MOT fail, even if it's a bit of a faff to use and patience is required.I got one of their 'colour tune' see through sparkplug affairs also, for checking the fuel mixture - Works well also and compliments the CO tester.Prices for those can vary wildly - some idiotic amounts being asked, takes you to shop about.
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